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Temulkar Blaine wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:just come out and say it mittani should resign
because goons ganked your macks because he shitcanned your space barbie gay bar because cfc evicted your regions because he nerfed your supercaps and titans because you got recruitment scammed because you was a goon hater all along
and this is the only time when you can do something about your impotent rage and hatred for him, kick a man while he is down is how youse bitchess roll
ya'll bitchessses aint shite
You always have such a balanced perspective on things. Frankly I'm concerned about what this could do to the game if this is ignored. Not really worried about about Goon's, sorry your low on the list. lol ok so your nutjob obsession for wis spacebarbie emoting gay bar, makes you such a balanced authority on things, tell me, what would happen to this game if "this" was ignored, massively reports on shitfail korean games that i really could care less about, it's not even gamespot or ign ffs, Actually its all over gamespot, just type in Eveonline cyberbully to google and you will see how far this has spread. WI used to be cool what happened? not even an alliance anymore and it was such a cool logo.
I did what you said. I got a forum post on gamespot.
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Here's that terrible forum post.
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29111530/eve-online-clan-leader-calls-for-cyber-bullying..-then-retracts
Truly, the blogospheres are buzzing and twitting about this massive online scandal. |
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Jita Alt666 wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Jita Alt666 wrote:Killer Gandry wrote:RougeOperator wrote:
We will worry about that when I do something as horrible as he did.
I don't know how it works in your morale code. But my morale code tells me to stop kicking a man who's already down. This isn't dependant on who's on the floor but depends only on the one who decides to kick or not. And Jesus said, "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone." Followed by "stop it Mom" You are quick to mock and pointed with your views, but lack the humility and compassion that is needed to add substance to your intellect. The lack of compassion expressed by the Mittani toward an individual suffering illness was his major folly - like many in this and other threads you express the same underlying folly.
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Posted - 2012.03.28 01:44:00 -
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Temulkar Blaine wrote:I dont deny its a terrible forum post on gamespot amongst the other 24000 hits that search will bring you. However it comes to somthing when WoW are laughing at our playerbase not the other way around. Thats what the chairman of the CSM has done, exposed us to ridicule by WoW. It will get worse if he now fails to do what he claimed he would and resign.
Way to both move those goalposts and not have any idea how google generates search results!
Your argument has literally devolved to "The Mittani should resign because there's a thread on the WoW forums about us." |
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Posted - 2012.03.28 02:20:00 -
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Temulkar Blaine wrote:
No no you misunderstand me sir. The fact that WoW are laughing at us simply makes the situation worse. HOwever I think he should resign because what was said was utterly stupid, offensive, potentially dangerous and simply way past the line. The fact that the gaming press and blogospheres as you cutely put it are buzzing is obviously an issue that heightens the odious comment made at fanfest into the larger gaming community. Alexander wanted a high profile and did just about everything he could to get himself into the gaming press. That profile means his actions have repurcussions. Im pretty sure there were many drunken offensive comments made at fanfest. The difference is the profile of the offender guves it more publicity. He has done some really good things for Eve and Im happy to say that but if he tries to continue in his role on the CSM, then he, the CSM and the playerbase will suffer. He will become a lame duck chairman with no credibility. Are the gaming press going to give him a platform to air his views on Eve when gaming forums are touting him as a cyberbully? nope they arent. Sometimes you have to take you medicine no matter how foul it tastes to get better. If he wants to retain his credibility and at some point regain the profile he has worked so hard to cultivate then he should resign. Then we can all move on.
"The fact that the gaming press and blogospheres as you cutely put it are buzzing is obviously an issue"
I was trying to really, really sarcastically imply that not very many people outside of eve-o forums care. You seemed to miss that. And the rest of your post past that seemed to more or less be gibberish about how nobody will listen to mittani about x thing being bad or good because he got drunk and made an ass of himself that one time. |
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Temulkar Blaine wrote: lols are you accusing me of being Darius? thats uber funny. I have no political axe to grind nor do I personally have any issue with the goons. Im happy to acknowledge the good stuff done in the CSM by all the delegates last year.
As for hilarious puffery you clearly havent read the OP in that you get puffery and pomposity wrapped up in fake humility, its much more amusing than mine.
Darius is probably smarter, I dunno. And you clearly have some sort of axe to grind. |
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RougeOperator wrote:TheButcherPete wrote:My, my, what a threadnaught this turned out to be. You guys are really this upset about a game? Even a metagame at that, you should all know when to log out and go outside for a bit. I hear that the US is thawing out now, bloody seasonal changes and all. Its about someone taking the game into real life with real life consequences. Basically what the Mittani did at fanfest.
Let me rephrase his post for you.
My, my, what a threadnaught this turned out to be. You guys are really this upset about something a drunk said about some attention grubbing miner in a game? Even a metagame at that, you should all know when to log out and go outside for a bit. I hear that the US is thawing out now, bloody seasonal changes and all. |
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weat bix wrote:Derrick Munroe wrote:weat bix wrote:if they do not ban him then ccp is telling everyone it is OK to ask others to help you harass someone until they kill them self Except, you know, nobody killed themselves over this. so using that logic why do people get banned for threatening to kill someone when nobody has been killed ? So you literally cannot see the difference between threatening to murder someone, and telling some annoying attention seeker to off himself? |
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Bane Necran wrote:Derrick Munroe wrote:weat bix wrote:if they do not ban him then ccp is telling everyone it is OK to ask others to help you harass someone until they kill them self Except, you know, nobody killed themselves over this. So, keep doing it until someone does? An example must be made if he does not step down himself. I say ban everyone who posted in this thread. Yes, before some super clever publord says anything, that includes me. |
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GatoOFruits wrote: I am glad my name is not Alex Gianturco....because when my next employer Google my name I will not have to spend a lot of energy trying to convince him/her that I have no anti-social tendencies
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michaelthered wrote:I'd be lying if i said actually knowing The Wis isn't a factor in my feelings about this...if i didn't know Wis, maybe i wouldn't have picked up on the fanfest video cause i honestly don't give a crap about Eve politics, i just fly internet spaceships. That being said I know Wis and I know what a nice guy he is and how generous he's been with other players. I enjoy flying with him and speaking with him on coms....he really is a nice ******* guy. That's what rages me about this little mouth breathing sissy prick fck and his utterly nauseatingly fake ass apology. When he landed he said "deal with it", until CCP relayed to him this was gonna have legs. "Now" he feels all sick about it. He stepped out of the bounds of this game and should therefore experience some real world punishment...not some lame expulsion from some internet spaceship committee which is what gave him his false sense of importance in the first place. I wonder if his employer would like to see a video of what his employee was doing on that "european backpacking" trip. lawls
If he's such a nice guy, then why did The Wis decide to pull the "I'm going to commit suicide" pitycard after someone shot his mackinaws? Throwing a tantrum and fake-threatening to off yourself can be considered fairly offensive in itself. |
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RougeOperator wrote:I think its pretty clear based on the Goons actions and comments during this time make it very clear that they would have indeed followed up on the mittanis call to harass a person to suicide. Joke or not.
This is why he must be removed from the CSM. Cause the Goons wont get it otherwise.
You're ********. No offense to the mentally disabled.
Kehro Urgus wrote:D Derp wrote:GatoOFruits wrote: I am glad my name is not Alex Gianturco....because when my next employer Google my name I will not have to spend a lot of energy trying to convince him/her that I have no anti-social tendencies
He's retired. He barely looks old enough to drive.
We're all manchildren.
Jessie-A Tassik wrote: Oh, and Mittens, good job getting those War Dec changes through. You know protecting your fellow Null Bear Goonies from nasty war decs. They are sensitive little cowards and shouldn't have to deal with mean people griefing them.
We tend to laugh at goons stupid enough to get themselves killed by jita camping wardecs. Because they're stupid. Not unlike yourself. |
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michaelthered wrote:D Derp wrote:weat bix wrote:Derrick Munroe wrote:weat bix wrote:if they do not ban him then ccp is telling everyone it is OK to ask others to help you harass someone until they kill them self Except, you know, nobody killed themselves over this. so using that logic why do people get banned for threatening to kill someone when nobody has been killed ? So you literally cannot see the difference between threatening to murder someone, and telling some annoying attention seeker to off himself? The differences ain't as vast as you think or are trying to convince everyone they are.
I'm not bashing those who are autistic by grouping you in with them, but are you autistic by any chance? You really don't see the difference between saying "I am going to murder you and your family" and "This person claimed to be suicidal and cried alot when we killed his miner, here's his name"?
Spoilers: One of them makes you a terrible person who genuinely needs to seek therapy, and the other makes you kind of a ****. |
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michaelthered wrote:D Derp wrote:michaelthered wrote:I'd be lying if i said actually knowing The Wis isn't a factor in my feelings about this...if i didn't know Wis, maybe i wouldn't have picked up on the fanfest video cause i honestly don't give a crap about Eve politics, i just fly internet spaceships. That being said I know Wis and I know what a nice guy he is and how generous he's been with other players. I enjoy flying with him and speaking with him on coms....he really is a nice ******* guy. That's what rages me about this little mouth breathing sissy prick fck and his utterly nauseatingly fake ass apology. When he landed he said "deal with it", until CCP relayed to him this was gonna have legs. "Now" he feels all sick about it. He stepped out of the bounds of this game and should therefore experience some real world punishment...not some lame expulsion from some internet spaceship committee which is what gave him his false sense of importance in the first place. I wonder if his employer would like to see a video of what his employee was doing on that "european backpacking" trip. lawls If he's such a nice guy, then why did The Wis decide to pull the "I'm going to commit suicide" pitycard after someone shot his mackinaws? Throwing a tantrum and fake-threatening to off yourself can be considered fairly offensive in itself. first off, nothing in that email would suggest he wasn't as i just portrayed him. Second....the email was out of context. The goon left out multiple email exchanges. He was asked about how he plays the game....he gave an honest answer to pieces of human ****, that was his mistake. He didn't realize he was feeding trolls. He was explaining this is what he does and why he does it...it's his outlet from a life with pretty substantial problems most you little turds couldn't fathom.
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:48:00 -
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TheButcherPete wrote:Man, is it me or is this thread picking up pace? You guys are really butthurt over someone picking on an idiot.
Aye, they just keep coming. And they're getting worse at it.
Literally the only person I can halfway sympathize with (I haven't read this entire thread) is that one guy who says he knows The Wis and feels bad for him. And he's probably trolling anyways. |
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Allandi wrote:Fellow admits his guilt, feels shame and regret, and tries to make amends (so the post goes, and whether or not he is sincere doesnt really matter). And yet half the posts of a 150 page thread are his alliance mates defending him?
He doesn't need our defense. We just really, really like to improve the quality of posting on eve-o |
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RougeOperator wrote:Allandi wrote:Fellow admits his guilt, feels shame and regret, and tries to make amends (so the post goes, and whether or not he is sincere doesnt really matter). And yet half the posts of a 150 page thread are his alliance mates defending him?
Honestly if i'd made this sort of mistake and saw a bunch of my "constituents" making it worse (which you are), I'd ask them to stop. Thats just me though, and I'm the type of person that has enough common sense not to get hammered before a public speech broadcast. Thats my point if he was the leader he would have asked them to stop. Thats if his apology ment diddly squat that is. He isnt stopping them and they are making it worse. I can only imagine he is trying to deflect as much attention away from himself by not stopping them. Or secondly he just cant stop them.
I haven't seen anyone talk about harassing The Wis, and the general consensus is that anyone dumb enough to do it will be banned. So it's probably mostly just stupid pubbies who read threads like these and get the idea.
The only thing goons are doing to make anything worse is **** up these terrible, terrible threads.
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Posted - 2012.03.28 04:01:00 -
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michaelthered wrote:are you ******** or did you just not watch the video? cause he blatantly told people to write wis and urge him to kill himself...followed up by a "no seriously do it". Really? really?
really? really?
[ I'm not bashing those who are autistic by grouping you in with them, but are you autistic by any chance? You really don't see the difference between saying "I am going to murder you and your family" and "This person claimed to be suicidal and cried alot when we killed his miner, here's his name"?
Spoilers: One of them makes you a terrible person who genuinely needs to seek therapy, and the other makes you kind of a ****. [/quote]
Feel free to re-read what I wrote.
michaelthered wrote:Kai Tel wrote:Nylith Empyreal wrote:Keep pushing it, something rash is going to happen and when it does you will only have yourselves to blame. Pray that it only results in a resignation and a hand smack anything more and **** will hit the fan for those involved.
/popcorn. It's EVE... Player generated content is the best kind. Ban his ass and bring it on. nope, not in eve. That's lame, that's more of this hiding behind a computer screen bullshit. If you think you can write to someone to go kill themselves then let's do this up real. No more internet spaceship pew..let's do the grown ass man pew. Do you know what that is?
So who are you threatening to kill? Goons in general? The Mittani?
I take back what I said about sort of sympathizing with you~
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote: Hypocrisy, thy name is goon.
And so SWIFT in your immediate hypocrisy.
Jake Warbird wrote:Andski wrote:michaelthered wrote:nothing veiled about it....i'm asking if people want to sack up and do something real if it's ok to tell folks to kill themselves irl. You're trying to backpedal and you're making veiled real-life threats. Enjoy your permaban. Mittens first then
So you people literally don't see the difference between threatening to kill someone, and some ******* telling people to make fun of some drama queen?
Maybe the others were right about eve being full of sociopath shutins. |
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michaelthered wrote:Andski wrote:michaelthered wrote:nothing veiled about it....i'm asking if people want to sack up and do something real if it's ok to tell folks to kill themselves irl. You're trying to backpedal and you're making veiled real-life threats. Enjoy your permaban. there's no backpedaling little one. That was what "nothing veiled" means. I'm "ASKING" if it's ok to tell people in RL to go ahead and kill themselves than it must be ok to have it done face to face. Or do you think this behavior has no consequences so long as it's behind a computer screen?
Backpedal~
To be completely serious, it's not quite as dickish to tell someone else to off themselves over the internet as it is to do it face to face. That's not how human interaction works.
It's just like how I'm not taking your threats seriously (neither is anyone else) because you're behind a computer screen. If someone were to threaten to murder me in person, I'd be much more inclined to get the law involved, or prepare to defend myself. Depending on the situation. |
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michaelthered wrote:D Derp wrote:[quote=michaelthered] So who are you threatening to kill? Goons in general? The Mittani?
I take back what I said about sort of sympathizing with you~
i'm not threatening to kill anyone you clown....i'm saying recognize that speech that wouldn't fly out in the real world is still not acceptable just because this is a fun internet space ship pew game. Especially when the person in question was not joking in any way shape or form. "IF", and i don't think this is true, but if Goons go around in various video games telling people to kill themselves then maybe there should be some afterparty shenanigans at fanfest next year. "i'm not threatening to kill anyone you clown", but then you talk about how goons should be ambushed at fanfest. You sound a touch crazy mate.
Quote:Thing is i know a couple goons and while they are master griefers and generally intolerable "IN GAME" assholes....they're actually good guys IRL and i'd have a beer with them anytime. They do not condone this bullshit.
Welcome to Goons. Alot of us are surprisingly chill. |
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michaelthered wrote:D Derp wrote:michaelthered wrote:[quote=D Derp]
"i'm not threatening to kill anyone you clown", but then you talk about how goons should be ambushed at fanfest. You sound a touch crazy mate. [. ambushed? lols Just say "go kill yourself" to someones face and be prepared for adult consequences. "IF" you're not willing to say something to someones face don't say it over the internet. And don't hide behind the "it's just a game" notion. One of my corpmates is from Sweden and he stated blatantly if he made a video and posted it on the internet urging people to contact his neighbor to urge him to commit suicide, it would be jail time. This was not "fun and games" like certain people here are trying to make it out to be.
Sweden isn't america, bro. Also, nice false equivalency bro~ |
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Andski wrote:michaelthered wrote:D Derp wrote:michaelthered wrote:[quote=D Derp]
"i'm not threatening to kill anyone you clown", but then you talk about how goons should be ambushed at fanfest. You sound a touch crazy mate. [. ambushed? lols Just say "go kill yourself" to someones face and be prepared for adult consequences. "IF" you're not willing to say something to someones face don't say it over the internet. And don't hide behind the "it's just a game" notion. One of my corpmates is from Sweden and he stated blatantly if he made a video and posted it on the internet urging people to contact his neighbor to urge him to commit suicide, it would be jail time. This was not "fun and games" like certain people here are trying to make it out to be. Unlike you, most sane adults don't start a fist-fight over crap people say.
One time me and Cousin Joe were ridin down the bayou in my pickup and we stopped in the station to pick up a 24 pack of bud and some skoal. There was this kid there who called Cousin Joe a homosexual. We broke hiREAL LIFE CONSEQUENCES
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Quote:Oh my god... wow....
If anything the are probably a little irritated that their target selection will be a bit more limited. Null sec alliances rarely bother to war deck each other, and if some empire gank team decs them to try and pick off a stray hauler or freighter (as pointless as that is) it simply adds spice in the slow periods.
I haven't made up my mind yet about all of the proposed changes, but at least I have a basic grasp of what they will and will not do. You should probably get to that point before you go on a crusade, particularly one that involves hiding your irritation at perceived changes behind a holier than thou attack on someone else.
I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to take your word for it, "friend". No problem, start with trying to actually understand the post you quoted earlier. Null Sec alliances use neutral alts to haul their goods, war decs don't affect them at all. Null sec alliances have no need to war dec each other under the current system, it serves no purpose what-so-ever. The goal of the REST of the proposed changes are aimed at making War Decs meaningful to everyone including Null Sec alliances, but if they want the advantages they'll be paying large amounts of coin for it. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go declare war on China 'cause I have a spare $5 in my wallet. Well then I guess it would be impossible to "grief you at the Jita dock." Yet Skippie the Nullseccer said the only reason to War Dec an alliance was to "grief you at the Jita dock". Oh wait. You are a shameless liar. Okay. Got it.
Is there another reason to wardec nullsec alliances other than to shoot the stupider members who haul with their mains? I honestly don't know.
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^ What he said.
RougeOperator wrote: You are still subject to all laws that would be illegal in the USA when traveling abroad. Just and FYI.
So, Swedish law applies to americans not in sweden because... |
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RougeOperator wrote:Amity Lane wrote:RougeOperator wrote:You are still subject to all laws that would be illegal in the USA when traveling abroad. Just and FYI. I'm sorry, but this is demonstrably false. I've seen Americans drink beer in taxicabs in Freeport, Bahamas with no penalty...something that is illegal in the US. I've seen Americans use cannabis in Amsterdam. I've seen Americans patronize call girls in Thailand. Not saying I side with your argument or against it, just that this statement is untrue. Read your passport documentation please. Also know what a federal law is vs a state law. Also the girls in Thailand thing is why that put that law into effect just an FYI. To stop sex tours from the USA that were going there. Ignorance is no defense in a court a law.
I still don't see how this makes the laws of another country apply to Americans living in America. |
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de4deye wrote:Tore Vest wrote:It looks like that eaven goons want to get rid of mittens.... on the way this thread is going... Damn... 150+ pages allready That is because Mittani is a piece of ****. Everyone want's him to go except for a select group of forum trolling goon zerglings using all of their alts to post the same thing. The time for Mittani to leave has come, hope he's enjoyed his stay.
You're right. Mittens is being trolled out of the game by... the eve-o forums. |
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michaelthered wrote:Andski wrote:[quote=RougeOperator][quote=Amity Lane][
It's specific to sex tourism. I doubt our government is terribly concerned about 20 year old Americans drinking at Fanfest. no it's not...at least not anymore. They just passed a new law that would "technically" allow them to prosecute an american citizen for smoking ********* in amsterdam. Whether they ever enforce that is anybody's guess but it's on the books now. Keep up with the world it's changing right infront of your face.
Isn't our government wonderful? Screw fixing the country, we need to make it so that people dont break vice laws on the other side of the planet~
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de4deye wrote:Derrick Munroe wrote:The EULA everybody seems to enjoy referencing wrote:You may encounter and converse with people who are rude, offensive, belligerent, and who may use indecent, obscene, and/or threatening or harassing language while playing the Game. You may report any instances of such behavior to CCP. CCP will investigate and take such measures as CCP, in its sole judgment, determines are reasonable under the circumstances. See that up there? Up to CCP to decide. And it appears they've let the CSM argue it out. Give it a few days, it's not in any of your hands, sorry~ Didn't you know that CCP takes into consideration the opinions of almost the entire playerbase?
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RougeOperator wrote:
I dont know why you are asking me this, I was pointing out to someone else that you were still subject to USA laws when abroad. Someone else was talking about Swedish laws so I clarified you are also subject them them. And any laws of the country you are in the honors a US passport.
Anything else?
Someone said something to the effect of how in sweden what mittens said was illegal. I said America isn't sweden. You went off about passports thai hookers, and something about ameican law applies to citizens abroad. Then you got called stupid.
RougeOperator wrote:D Derp wrote:michaelthered wrote:
ambushed? lols Just say "go kill yourself" to someones face and be prepared for adult consequences. "IF" you're not willing to say something to someones face don't say it over the internet. And don't hide behind the "it's just a game" notion. One of my corpmates is from Sweden and he stated blatantly if he made a video and posted it on the internet urging people to contact his neighbor to urge him to commit suicide, it would be jail time. This was not "fun and games" like certain people here are trying to make it out to be.
Sweden isn't america, bro. Also, nice false equivalency bro~ You are still subject to all laws that would be illegal in the USA when traveling abroad. Just and FYI. |
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Ai Shun wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Congratulations to everyone on my side of the floor, this day we won a victory for some standards of ooc camaraderie and mutual respect in eve online. Let's recap here. 1. The Wis brings personal issues into the game. 2. The Mittani does something very stupid and to my mind very rude. 3. There is a large public outcry. 4. The Mittani apologises and donates his ISK to The Wis. 5. The Mittani, after consultation, resigns as chair and from the CSM (Wasn't very clear if he is off the CSM). 6. CCP hands out a 30 day ban and decides to review future material for Fanfest. The man that owned up to his horrid mistake and did his best to offer restitution is the man that comes out of this on top. Of course, the same can't be said of the mass of Goons that have posted their vitriol over these pages; but at least they're loyal. I don't know why, but some reason your post just makes me think of a politician greaseballing for votes or something. There is something distinctly slimy about it. Well having now read his freak out session on EN24 http://www.evenews24.com/2012/03/28/leak-gsf-ceo-update-clutching-pearls-and-finger-wagging/I have to say I was FAR too kind to this guy. He deserves the ban and everything he gets. Spiteful footstamping he sounds like a child with its lollypop taken away. I'm very disappointed that he made a public apology while secretly writing that vitreolic poison secretly to an audience of goons. Good riddence to the guy. hello.jpg
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RP Space brothels. |
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